Thursday, April 13, 2006

The Greatest MCs of All Time...

Since Monday MTV.com has been "unveiling the kings" for their list of the "Greatest MCs of All Time". They've already unveiled their choices for numbers 10-3 and they will tell their choices for the #1 and #2 slots on Friday. They also have honorable mentions but you can click the link to check that out. So far the list reads as follows:

10. LL Cool J
09. Eminem
08.
Ice Cube
07. Big Daddy Kane
06. KRS-One
05.
Nas
04. Rakim
03.
Notorious BIG
The only two rappers that aren't listed yet are Jay-Z and Tupac. Who do you think will take the #1 slot??? What do you think of the list so far??? Be sure to check out the MTV site on Friday to see who comes out on top.


80 comments:








Anonymous

said...

1st suckas!!!

As for this stupid poll...I say: Hell no!!! Biggie and Tupac sahre number 1#!!! Jay-Z sucks!!! He ain't got no real caps in his raps!!!





Anonymous

said...

That's share...not sahre!!! Bye bitches!!!





Anonymous

said...

mtv is not in a position to judge mc's. hell...there was a time when they wouldn't even show a black person let alone a rapper...they can go fuck themselves.





Conscious Daughter

said...

Marshall Mathers should not share a list at anytime with KRS-ONE. Lay that ish down for real.

And are we talking 1985 LL Cool J....are right now Cool J...cuz its a HUGE difference.

Jay-Z is a BITER for sho'...now we KNOW how he doesn't "write down any of his ryhmes" he has memorized everyone elses...LOL....

Rakim...Big Daddy Kane....KRS-ONE..Agreed.





Anonymous

said...

I think i'd put Big Pun in there wayyyyyyyyyy before Eminem... but this is MTV we talkin bout... and Nas would rank before Hov as far as lyrical content they just goin by sells on that and what about Common?? and I agree about the 80s LL cuz this one ain't B.A.D like he used to be he just WEAK and tryna make hits...zuh zzuh zzuh zuh zuh lol. you really can't just narrow it down to 10 i'd prolly say 20 cuz some of the lower ones are less or of equal value than others.





Anonymous

said...

sales*





Anonymous

said...

jay-z is number one on the list, but it doesn't mater b/c this list sucks, the order is all out of wack.





Anonymous

said...

how can u put eminem b4 LL? what's going on?





Nee

said...

I hate lists like this because they never really tell you what the criteria is for someone to make it on there. Is it mainstream marketability, longevity, rhyme skills, influence on the genre? Exactly what is "it" that makes them "the greatest" because I think I need some clarification on a couple of these...LOL...





Prince Miliano Alexander

said...

Biggie Smalls Is The Best!!!!





Mike

said...

What about Ice T?!?!?





Anonymous

said...

Jay Z is an amazing lyricist and his whole method of creating his Rain Man mode is crazy. Check Fade To Black.

I would say Jay Z and Big for the #1 spot then Pac then Nas.

Eminem should even be on thelist with these dudes but you know MTV was gonna put his pale ass on there

Talib, Black Thought, or Mos should have been on the list





Renay

said...

People what do you expect? This is MTV the people who have shows like TRL and laguna beach...The same people who think artists like chingy&bow wow are "cool".They probably just took this list from somewhere else and recycled it.I think eminem is overated and only got so big because he's white.





Anonymous

said...

whus up Nee! They do have a criteria for how the place them on the list. It's under their name at the MTV.COM





Anonymous

said...

PAC IS #1...GOTTA LOVE IT!
I AGREE, THE WHOLE LIST IS BOGUS.
KRS ONE WAS LIKE #21..THIS IS SOME MTV EXECUTIVES LIST.





Anonymous

said...

Knowing MTV, it will probably be Kanye West. Hell, it could be me if Eminem made the damn list!





Datbury

said...

First of all, Rakim is number one because everyone wanted to be a deejay before he came along. He was the first lyricist, and nothing can be better than the original. Secondly, where is Tribe Called Quest? Q-Tip and Phife should be on that list!





Anonymous

said...

THIS LIST IS WACK! MISSING SHIT!NOT IN ORDER! BUT WHEN U THROUGH WIT IT! PAC NO DOUBT! STILL! AND HE R.I.P 2ND MY BOI BIGGIE! R.I.P





Anonymous

said...

blah
mtv is hip hop 4 dummies





Julia_Claudine_Deveraux

said...

This list is fucking ridiculous!!! Eminem should NOT be anywhere near this list!!! Rakim, Big Daddy, KRS-One, Nas, Vintage LL, agreed...the rest need are garbage. Where's Mos Def, Common, Q-TIP, Ice Tee, Talib, Large Professor from the Main Source?





Anonymous

said...

I think #1 would be Tupac, because lyrically i don't think any artist could touch Tupac.





Anonymous

said...

They said greatest list of all times so i am assuming they would be talking about MC's from way back. But if they are talking from way back to now, these would be my picks.

#1 Tupac
#2 Biggie
#3 Nas
#4 Scarface
#5 Big Pun
#6 Ice Cube
#7 Eminem
#8 Doug Fresh
#9 KRS One
#10 Rob Base





Anonymous

said...

WHO THE HELL MADE UP THE LIST....OH YEAH...WHITE BUSINESS MEN WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIP HOP! GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT MESS.





Anonymous

said...

I AGREE ANON 7:46!!!!!!!! MTV....PLEASE!





Anonymous

said...

Before yawll start knocking the list at least go to the site and read the damn reason they in this order





Anonymous

said...

Tupac is and always will be #1-angie





Anonymous

said...

MTV is crazy. They must have gotten the only 2 black dudes in the building to comprise this list. But either way the list is ok but out of order in my point. Jay will be number #1. I love Tupac. So I think #1 and 2 could easily be a toss up. Most people will hate on Jay for reasons only they know. But either way I have to check out the honorable mentions to see who could've made it.





Anonymous

said...

And before all you MC critics and "real hip hop heads" (which probably 2 of you really are if even that) state your opinion; MC'n is different from being a Rapper/Ryhmer.





jimmy del rio

said...

i dun agree w/. the list completly i think b.i.g shude hav been #1 i mean w/ lyrics like ''lyrical deuches in ya pushes'' why isnt he #1???!!????





jimmy del rio

said...

what no lil bow wow or romeo or nik cannon on the list!!??/ i for one am shocked (im joking gosh people haha)





zillz aka tie granny up

said...

money that Pac will be #1. Jay'll be #2.





Anonymous

said...

Ummmmm....Big never said lyrical deuches in your pushes. I pray that was a typo and you don't think that's really what he's saying.





definitlyL0VE

said...

UMMM!

Why is LL soo low on that list? Whether or not you like the way LL had chneged over the years, LL has been around sice the mid- 80's. He has that saying power that most rappers just do not have there days, and nneds to be givin where cridrt is due.

HOW COME I DON'T SEE SLICK RICK. Hello, one of the best storytellers they are? Wow.

MTV really fucced up.





definitlyL0VE

said...

UMMM!

Why is LL soo low on that list? Whether or not you like the way LL had changed over the years, LL has been around since the mid- 80's. He has that saying power that most rappers just do not have these days, and needs to be givin where credit is due.

HOW COME I DON'T SEE SLICK RICK. Hello, one of the best storytellers they are? Wow.

MTV really fucced up.





Anonymous

said...

PAC #1 FOR SHO! R.I.P WEST COAST REP. I FEEL THEY NEED TO HAVE SCARFACE ON THIS LIST THEY ARE TRIPPING. I LOVE JAY BUT NAS IS A LYRICIST HE NEVER GET'S HIS CREDIT BECAUSE HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS HOLLYWOOD SHIT CARS AND HOE'S HE KEEP'S THAT SHIT ON A EDUCATIONAL LEVEL AND HE SHOULD GET WHAT HE DESERVE'S. RAKIM I AGREE HE IS A LYRICIST AS WE'LL AS KRS-ONE. LL I AGREE BACK IN THE 80'S PUT IT DOWN. DON'T SLEEP MY BOY ICE CUBE HAS THE LYRIC'S. LAST BUT NOT LEAST MY BOY BIGGIE R.I.P PUT IT DOWN FOR THE EAST COAST. JADAKISS WHERE ARE U? I LOVE YOU TOO! EMINEM HAS LYRIC'S AS WE'LL HIS COLOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT THE MAN HAS RHYMES SERIOUSLY.





Anonymous

said...

^^ SORRY PARAGRAPH HIP-HOP HEAD I WENT INTO A ZONE!





Anonymous

said...

Tupac Sahkur was and still is the best. Jay-z ??? C'mon now. Tupac is the realest, the best rapper of all time... can't compare him to whats out right now.... the guy was on point, his lyrics are crazy.... I can go on and on.





Anonymous

said...

MCs(mic check), lyricist, rappers, whateva. This list is whack. I hope sway was not sitting in the boardroom when this meeting was conducted. First, Eminem should not be on this list. Second, where is Kurupt, Talib, Mos Def, E-40, Tirbe Called Quest. Third, only Lauren Hill; what about Lyte, Queen, Da Brat, Lil Kim. They didn't even give "Pimp My Ride" Xzibit the time of day.The white folks at MTV knows nothing about greatest MCs.





Anonymous

said...

Pac is #1





Anonymous

said...

^ westcoast reppin!





Anonymous

said...

sorry west coast rap? died with tupac. but he deserves 2 be #1





Anonymous

said...

I wonder how many hip hop albums yall really own? You ppl r not hip hop heads.





Anonymous

said...

my pick is tupac then jay-z as number to because tupac talked about real street drama on every song and yeah jay-z did to but i could relate with tupac much better for real but both of them are great mcs i love both of them so i take my hat off to the both of them





Anonymous

said...

Jay-Z ain't got no real caps! He just comes up with rhymes off the top of his head in the studio! That's his claim to fame. But when it comes to Biggie, every two lines brought a big ass cap without fail!!! That idiot Jay-Z doesn't even think his lyrics over before recording the shit!!! It sounds like he's just randomly talking about anything on a fucking cell phone!!!

Now that's just fine when you're battle rapping...but in the studio it's best to write a well thought out song instead of just throwing some words together off of the top of your head!!! Jay-Z hasn't broken new ground as a rapper like Biggie has...(Biggie)having come up with a original rhyming style. No, Jay-Z is just some generic nigga who got lucky thanks to his drug dealin' gangsta ties!!!

This phony MTV poll is bought like a mutha fuckin' ho!!!





Anonymous

said...

ANON 4:06 SHUT THE HELL UP YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHO IS A HIP HOP HEAD YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW US!





jaime del rio

said...

my bad he said


To all the ladies in the place with style and grace
Allow me to lace these lyrical douches, in your bushes





X

said...

LL Cool J has lasted the test of time and with every album has always stepped his game up.





Anonymous

said...

eminem sucks. i'm white, but i know it.





i be drankin

said...

1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan





not2nitebaby

said...

I'm glad we all agree this list is bull! Yeah, I think Pac and Big should share #1. Pac brought us the whole thug/rider mentality, but biggie was a sophisticated gangsta. Wasn't none of us youngn's in Cali thinking about no damn Versace or Coogi until he rapped about it. Nas should be #3 and then Eminem #9 and Jay-Z #10. Y'all stop frontin; Em got helluh skills and he almost never talks about selling drugs and fucking all these bitches and how many cars and shit he has. That's so fucking annoying. If I hear one more reference to "candy paint".....





Anonymous

said...

WHO EVER THE HELL SAID EMINEN HAS SKILLS IS FUCKIN OUT OF THIER MINDS!! SO WHAT IF HE NEVER TALKED ABOUT SELLING DRUGS. THE MERE FACT THAT HE TALKS ABOUT KILLING HIS BABY MAMA SHOWS THAT HE IS MORE DERANGED THAN ANY RAPPER OUT THERE. EM IS A JOKE WHO THE FUCK WALKS AROUND WITH A TIGHTY FAKE SUPER HERO OUTFIT ON AND A FAKE ASS ON HIS VIDEOS DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. MY PERSONAL FAVORITE IS 2PAC BECAUSE OF HIS LYRICAL DEPTH. AND SOPHISTICATE AND GANSTA SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME SENTENCE. THATS JUST LIKE SAYING "I'M A CLASSY HO" BITCH PLEASE. ANY OF YOU WET BEHIND THE EAR ASS HOLES SHOULD NOT EVEN BE COMMENTING ON THESE NEW SCHOOL RAPPERS BEING ON THE COUNTDOWN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE OF KRS-ONES SKILL FROM '83 ON UP. IF YOU ARE UNDER 30 YEARS OF AGE SHUT THE FUCK UP CAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THE REAL SHIT!!! THEM FRONTIN AS NIGGAS CAN NOT HOLD A CANDLE TO KANE OR KRS1.

I DO HOWEVER AGREE THAT SOME OF THE LADIES NEED TO BE ON THE LIST

LATIFA, AND EXPECIALLY MC LYTE. GET HER FIRST ALBUM AND YOU WILL KNOW!!!





Anonymous

said...

Moca: They have this list all ass hole backwards. tupac maycome first, however Nas fucks Jay'z up all day everyday. I think Jay'z should be ranked number 3. HOLLA





MahoganyGirl.com

said...

Jay Z will probably be #1 since Viacom/MTV and Universal Music Group appear to be good buddies these days. Like someone said the list is bought like a mug. LOL @ MTV they're confused. They cancel Yo! MTV Raps but are constantly speaking on hip hop when there's nothing else better to do or when they need a traffic boast. LS.





Anonymous

said...

my boy anonymous 4:59pm said it betta than any other. I never have any idea of what jay z is talking about and its a bunch of mumbo jumbo, when he aint biting somone else. He can't rap at all he just go lucky. Who ever says jay-z should be in the top two lyrical wise is on drugs..lol. I would'nt watch that show b/c I already know that whoever created that list dont know what the f*** they talkin about.





Anonymous

said...

my bad, my boy or girl





Anonymous

said...

There is no way Eminem should be on that list that high. He's white so that makes him dope and a legend?? NO way.





Anonymous

said...

has anyone seen that clip of jay-z smutting that girl in the face for taking a picture of him? I did.





Anonymous

said...

Tupac definetly, how did Jay-Z get this far anyway?





Princess

said...

In my book the Greatest Mc of all time's is Tupace Shakur,He talked about real shit,Things we go through every day not just about how much money he got or the cars he driving in....He was also kind of like a poet,When you listened to his songs you felt his pain,He described it so deeply that he took you back to that place.No other rapper could or can do that.He was also real everything he talked about he went through he didnt make it up and he didnt act like a thug he was one, most rappers today use thug life as some type of "gimmick".Jay z before tupac?? Hell no jay z is a good MC but i dont think he was better then pac.Tupac Deserves to be number one..Mtv sucks who in the hell they let do this list?? carson daily?





Anonymous

said...

who is Tupace....





Anonymous

said...

Fuck eminem he is only here because he is a cracker





Anonymous

said...

I saw Jay-Z smacking that girl. Personally, I don't think he's shit for doing that. The only reason he doesn't pop Beyonce is because she's Beyonce and thats bullshit.





pfreshh

said...

to the cat talking bout Jay smackin that girl. That was a joke, fool! He knows and grew up wit dat chick. Real talk here. Stop hatin. The greatest MC of all time?..Dr. Ocotogon. Without him, there wouldn't be a Jay or Pac. Pfreshh. Real talk you succas





Anonymous

said...

Shut up Pfresh, you are jus dum.





not2nitebaby

said...

@Anonymous 8:59 dirty hoe pleaze! Eminem has lyrical depth, too. Who cares if his videos are funny! Don't nobody want to see the same o'l booty shaking, European whip driving, and name brand dropping ass videos! And Tupac also rapped about drugs and killing other "niggas" (other black people), so I hope you don't think that made him "cool". And the mafia are some sophisticated ass gangstas. Bitch nowadays, all these so called "gangstas" be drinking champagne and wearing rich old gay white men's clothing line. And Tupac was doing the same thing. Just because you want the finer things in life don't mean you can't be a killer. And what the fuck you typin in all caps for? Who the fuck is you? Ol' hoodrat bitch.





pfreshh

said...

for that anyonomous fool who called me dum, whatch ya bac youngin. I'd hate to crack yo young puppy ass up in front of yo crew. Busta ass can't even rep your name. anonymous pussy ass





Anonymous

said...

anon 10:54, you sound a little... no, alot angry. do we need to be on prozac? and do you think rapping about killing the mother of your child is cool? ya'll are taking these blogs way to seriously. getting mad because someone does not agree with, you and that they type in all caps? is it really that serious? chill out

i agree with anon 8:59 eminem does not need to be on this list. his videos are corny not funny. oh, and please calm the fuck down.





Anonymous

said...

"And the mafia are some sophisticated ass gangstas"

not2nitebaby, i'll put this in regular type since caps is too hard for you to read. i guess the caps intimidates you. em is just as guilty for violent innuendo's as any other rapper, and since you're so in love with him i am sure you know this because you should have his cd's. and to the reference of the "sophisticated gangstas" there is nothing sophisticated about cheating on your wife with whores, putting your family and childrens life in jeopardy, or putting innocent civilians lives in danger. dringking champagne, and wearing versace shirts, or put more eloquintly by you "wearing rich old gay white men's clothing line" does not by any means make you sophisticated. you watch way too much sopranos. i like the show i must admit, it is entertaining, but there is nothing sophisticating about that lifestyle. but if you INSIST on believing that this type of lifestyle is sophistocated, i guess you do believe in classy ho's as well. hell, you maybe a classy ho yourself. oops!? my bad, i didn't mean to offend your sophisticated gangsta and classy hoish ass. and do you really want to know whats more annoying than rappers talking about candy paint, em hating his baby mama and wanting to kill her in almost every song, him hating his mother and wanting to rap about her in every song,and if i hear or see another trailor park......





Millie

said...

JAy-Z is #1 WHAT THE FUCK





Anonymous

said...

^^^ I agree. i want a recount.





Anonymous

said...

How the fuck is Jay-Z number one over Biggie or Tupac! He looses the number one spot just from the simple fact that he got quiet as a fuckin' church mouse when Pac was bombing on all them cowards! And where the fuck is Nas' name at? Yall mutherfuckkkers got the game fucked up! Tupac sold more records than any of these niggaz!





Anonymous

said...

^^actually biggie sold more records according to billboard. but i do agree tupac should be #1. sales does not make a someone a better rapper, it makes them more commercial.





pfreshh

said...

Just check ya self shorty thats all





Anonymous

said...

@ anon April 16, 2006 10:56 PM

Honey, Pac sold waaaaay more albums than Biggie and net profit gross more than Biggie. That wack ass Diddy fucked the game up for Big!





Anonymous

said...

^^^billboard post net profits with platinum sales and biggie sold more records. check www.billboard.com search 2pac and biggie 500,000 for gold 1,000,000 for platinum its all there baby as well as #1 hits. but ONCE AGAIN, i fee pac is #1 and is my personal favorite. do your research before you comment. i love pac, but i dont give out misleading info just because i like an artist. i state facts.





MahoganyGirl.com

said...

LOL@ Anon 6:57pm.

Like I said. It's Viacom and they are good buddies with the Universal Music Group so...
I'm not shocked.

They stick to the script.





Anonymous

said...

to anon 2:45 big's life after death went CERTIFIED DIAMOND according to RIAA. this further shows proof that he sold more albums with one album alone. i am a STRONG 2pac fan, and i love his music and style, but as i said before, i state facts. i do not give misleading info just because i like the artist. just keeping it real.

check out:
http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/diamond.asp





Anonymous

said...

HOW IN THE HELL IS JAY-Z HIGHER ON THE LIST THAN NAS?!?!?!? WE ALL KNOW THAT SHIT IS WACK. ALL JAY-Z EVER TALKED ABOUT WAS HOW MANY GIRLS HE FUCKED! HE NEVER HAD ANYTHING CONSCIOUS TO SAY. NAS AND TUPAC HAD A BETTER VOCABULARY, AND A BRAODER MINDSET WHEN THEY RHYME! TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE IN JAY-Z'S ASSHOLE...SWAY AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTY BOUNTY DUDES WHO COMPLIED THAT LIST NEED TO LEAVE SHIT LIKE THAT UP TO THE PROS!!!!! TUPAC #1 NAS #2.....AT LEAST OF THE PRESENT TIME BECAUSE SO MANY PAVED THE WAY FOR THEM...TOO MANY TO MENTION.





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